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vajrafist
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Posted: 2005-Aug-24 06:13
Hello,
I just rewrote my entire site. I used to use html text links to navigate the site.
Now I have javascript links, and no text links from my index.html page.
Im wondering, will the search engines pick up all my pages, or will they stop at the homepage because of no html links?
I dont really want to wait around for 6 weeks to find out.
thanks
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Aug-24 21:33
You need the links inside normal HTML code.
You can use CSS and JS to control the style and positioning of those links, but the links themselves MUST be inside normal HTML tags (or, but not so good, you need to duplicate the links in a separate HTML navbar at the bottom of the page for the spiders to follow).
Use Xenu LinkSleuth to check out your site. When you link to an index page, do not include the index file filename itself. Link to / or /folder/ etc instead. Make sure that every page links back to your main page too.
[ Message was edited by: g1smd 08/24/2005 02:19 pm ]
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lizardz
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Posted: 2005-Aug-24 21:38
Unfortunately, google has been following javascript links, with varying degrees of success, but as g1smd says, it's a very bad idea to rely on those in general.
the problem with how google has been doing it is they will follow anything within javascript that even looks like a link, like this:
<a href="javascript: connect(var1 + var2 + '/some-url-not-on-yoursite.htm');">
That particular one ended up dropping a site out of the serps for a few weeks until it was corrected, that and some other issues were enough to dump the page.
We're currently looking at another site that used mostly javascript linking, and which also dropped out of the serps, but for different reasons. But the javascript was definitely part of the problem.
Use of javascript for primary site navigation is a very bad idea, it's probably the worst thing you could do, aside from depending on flash navigation.
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vajrafist
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Posted: 2005-Sep-03 18:26
Ok, I bought these templates from a web design company, and they recommend using these html links on my homepage:
<!-- THIS IS FOR SEARCH ENGINES TO SEE ALL THE PAGES -->
<a href="about.htm"><IMG SRC="picts/spacer.gif" height="1" width="1" border="0" alt="replace with your keywords"></a>
<a href="contact.htm"><IMG SRC="picts/spacer.gif" height="1" width="1" border="0" alt="replace with your keywords"></a>
Dont the search engines penalize the use of these kind of links?
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Sep-03 18:57
Whoa. That is pure spam.
1. Keyword-loaded alt attributes attached to 1-pixel images.
2. Invisible links to other pages of the site.
Pure 1998-era spam.
You have two choices:
Make a proper sitemap page and Google will love your site.
Carry on with that old-school spam, and face the Google Drop.
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vajrafist
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Posted: 2005-Sep-03 21:18
"Make a proper sitemap page and Google will love your site. "
Any place to get info on the latest site map rules?
-thanks
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Curt
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Posted: 2005-Sep-10 02:15
If you use javascript as your primary navigation function for the user, you will also need to include html links on your home page such as at the bottom of the page.
There's nothing really wrong with using javascript for navigation as long as you also include html links on the home page or an html link to a site navigation page with html links to all pages on your site.
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-Sep-10 13:33
>> There's nothing really wrong with using javascript for navigation <<
JS Nav: Place your credit card on the table ready to spend some money. Turn off JS in your browser. Go to the site and try to spend your money. Pretty effective way of turning away customers, huh?
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Curt
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Posted: 2005-Sep-23 06:44
g1smd, yeah I know about people turning off JavaScript. It's stupid, but people still do it because they think they are being clever or misunderstanding the true nature of JavaScript. Got too many conspiracy theories floating around about the so-called dangers of JavaScript when in fact the danger is something else, but JavaScript gets the blame. The upside is that most people leave JavaScript enabled.
I don't turn off JavaScript and I don't have ActiveX turned on (except for when I want to download MS updates). Actually I don't use MSIE to do general surfing so I don't have an ActiveX problem anyway. JavaScript runs safely via Mozilla.
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