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good_life
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Posted: 2005-Jun-08 16:03
Hi,
I am 18 years old and i live in canada. I am currently building a website for Younique Magazine and i have no diplomas or any training. I was just wondering if anybody could take a look at this website and tell me what I could change or do to make it better or to just give me some advice.
I was alsowondering how much i should charge to build a website.
Description of The Website:
1. Pictures of Employess
2. Contact Form
3. Apply For a job
4. Probably 10 - 15 pages... he also wants me to be his "webmaster", how much should I charge to change things or update things? I appreciate your answers.
Thanks 
[ Message was edited by: good_life 06/08/2005 12:49 pm ]
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excell
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Joined: Mar 19, 2001
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Posted: 2005-Jun-08 17:14
Hello - welcome to the forums
I understand your quandry about how to price when first starting out.
May I suggest that you remove the link that you have there and place it in you profile temporarily - it can be embarrassing for you if the client finds that a link to it is found in google to this forum 
I see this is your first post here so I would like to point you to read
1) The forum rules
2) The site review forum - you will be able to get feedback for your creation if you follow the rules for posting there.
3) We have a young webmaster forum around that you might be interested in
4) We have lots of threads where people have asked a similar question
That all said - I think that a lot of us when starting out tend to charge on the lower side and build our pricing up as we develop our skills and our portfolio along with word of mouth & testimonials that are the fruit of our work.
Consider you current skill level, your time, your overheads & charge what you feel comfortable with.
Prices that you see out there for webwork will vary greatly and nobody can give you a direct answer to your question!
I suggest that you remove your credit link from the client pages until you have populated your own website with information as this could be detremental to your client (linking to empty pages) as well as to your own business.
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Curt
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Posted: 2005-Jun-09 14:03
First thing to remember, treat it like a real business and figure in your costs: health insurance; office space cost; computer equipment; computer upgrades & maintenance; general office supplies costs; software tools; time/money spent learning web design/etc. by reading books and going to school; and the time you put into design, graphics, search engine positioning, and script programming. Don't just think about the time you put into the site. Consider the other factors of running a web site design shop.
That's why a relatively simple 10 page web site can justifiably command a price of $1,500 and more assuming your web sites look professional and you reside in the USA.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jun-09 20:48
"i have no diplomas or any training"
If this is the case, you should not charge a lot, I don't agree with Curt here, that would be correct advice for somebody with professional experience, but not for someone who is just starting out. Basically you should treat this as a paid internship, you are going to make so many serious mistakes the first few years you do this that when you look back, say when you're 25, you will be amazed that you managed to convince anyone to pay you at all.
For a first website, with little or no experience/training behind you, and assuming you live in the us, I'd say no more than $500 for the site, then maybe $20 an hour for webmastering. What you'll find when you get more experience is that you can work about 5 times faster than you can right now, that's why people get paid a lot, when they have experience, their time is worth much more, since they've already learned the mistakes, and don't do as many of them as they used to, although you'll never not make mistakes.
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Curt
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Posted: 2005-Jun-10 05:13
lizardz, "no diplomas and no training" does not necessarily mean that a web site designer does not know what they are doing. If this person is just starting out and doesn't really know much about site design, then yes, they will not be able to command much in payment at first until they get more experience. Some young people are really good at what they do and should be compensated the same as an older professional.
Depends on the experience and expertise, not necessarily diplomas and training. Many of us learned it ourselves by doing lots of reading and experimenting. If you got the expertise don't short-change yourself into thinking you should accept less just because you don't have the degree. And even if you don't have the experience, the person should still keep the above points in mind, just adjust pricing accordingly.
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lizardz
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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Posted: 2005-Jun-10 08:21
"does not necessarily mean that a web site designer does not know what they are doing"
I'd agree it doesn't necessarily mean that, but it usually does, at least from what I've seen, that goes for most people who work with websites, not just 18 year olds by the way. Personally I've come to cringe when somebody says that they are a web designer, it almost invariably signals pain coming my way in the near future. Not to say anything about this poster at all though, no way to tell without seeing the code, the site, etc.
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raxian
Joined: Feb 01, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Feb-01 15:31
Starting off, Probably a good figure is $100 It won't short change you, yet its a reasonable "Self Starter" Price. Negotiate Support and Update/Upkeep after the initial site is up.
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hk997
Joined: Feb 05, 2007
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Posted: 2007-Feb-05 20:05
all you have to do is, go to any search engine & find out how much others are charging & then decide how much you want to charge!
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