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maxmillion
Joined: Oct 10, 2004
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Posted: 2005-May-17 10:48
Does anyone know what is the purpose of this tag on a webpage?
<INPUT TYPE=Hidden NAME="blah blah" VALUE="this blah, that blah, the next blah business service">
The webmaster has placed the tag below the meta tags (meta name="description" content="blah blah services" etc tags within the <head> and </head> tags, though my understanding is that this sort of tag belongs in a form.
(BTW - blah represents a keyword)
I have seen this tag on a web site that has high ranking in google. There may be other reasons for the high ranking but this is the main difference between the top site and the competitors. (I analysed and compared keyword density, descriptions, number of links etc)
Could this tag have something to do with the higher ranking?
Can someone explain what this tag does?
Thanks
Michael
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-May-17 11:03
It doesn't do anything except to say that the designer of the page is fairly clueless.
Yes, it belongs in a form, and form elements are only allowed in the <body> of the page.
It is a crude attempt to spam the search engines. Don't try to copy that. You'd be wasting your time.
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kevchadders
Joined: Feb 18, 2002
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Posted: 2005-May-19 16:55
It's a useful way to pass data from one webpage to another when using a form... and as g1smd said, it belongs in a form tag.
I would like to think that all of the major search engines would ignore it and i doubt this tag has anything to do with higher ranking.
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bhartzer
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Posted: 2005-May-19 17:00
That "tag" really serves no purpose. In fact, it's most likely put there in order to "stuff" more keywords into the page--which is, in effect, spamming.
I would remove it immediately.
You say that you've seen it on a high-ranking page. Most likely the ranking is due to other factors, not because of this spam.
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maxmillion
Joined: Oct 10, 2004
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Posted: 2005-May-20 00:22
Thanks for your responses.
The site in question has very tidy but minimal keywords, a short title and simple description. Keywords are woven neatly through the text. Some of the alt tags have the keyword, but not all.
The site does have a substantial number of links in and out, but IMO they are not targeted - basically linking with anyone who wants to link.
Myself, I have a lot of links on one of my sites; I have attempted to make my pages compliant with w3.org. IMO, my site is technically superior.
I can search on a number of relative words/phrases in almost every search engine, and this site appears high in the listings. Firefox shows how many links there are on a site, and the site appears to only have around 12 pages, yet it appears to be optimised for everything.
I have a suspicion that cloaking is going on here, and I wondered if using this tag here had something to do with it.
The webmaster uses links between his own sites, and many of his sites have exactly the same or similar content to each other. They are like affiliate sites, but he creates them manually and copies the same text and menus from one site to the next.
Basically, he appears to be breaking every rule as discussed in this and other forums. And yet his sites still rank highly, even after changes in algos.
Is there a way of checking whether cloaking is being used?
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g1smd
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Posted: 2005-May-20 21:47
Is the content in the Google cache different to what you see on the real page?
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Prowler
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Posted: 2005-May-21 07:29
The easy way is to use what g1smd has given - check the cached version of Google. If the cloaker has any savvy, he will not leave the page for the entire world to see. He would have made sure that, Google or any other search engine is not 'permitted' to cache the cloaked pages.
Again a clue in the right direction.
A sure way to tell whether cloaking is implemented or not is not so easy. Cloaking is triggered by many "events" - IP address, User Agent and a number of other factors.
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