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deano2
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Jul-28 18:24
Hi
I wondered if anyone could advise me?
I have a website which I built for golf property rentals, I am soon starting a golf property sales website, and wondered if I was right in saying that one way links are one of the most important things to get high positions in google.
If so I was looking at designing about 50 cheap but nice looking websites for each of my clients who have properties to rent. One of the reasons for doing them cheaply is because I will link to my new sales website from their front pages as their content will be very relative to my sales website.
I have a reseller hosting account so they will each have there own hosting not forwarded, but they all have one IP as they are name based. Do search engines recogize this?
Do you think that it will be worth it?
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rol_one
Joined: Eons Ago
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Posted: 2006-Jul-31 08:28
thats not a bad idea Deano2 and its how many website developers build their own ranking. Just becareful not to duplicate too many sites with the same content incase google or other see it as a spam attempt. But if it's quality, can't see why it should work .
good luck
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g1smd
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Posted: 2006-Jul-31 11:35
I am thinking that 50 "related" websites with "similar content" is not a good plan.
A lot of care will be needed, otherwise the whole lot will fall like a house of cards.
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2006-Aug-03 14:01
1 - this will likely be seen as a link network - a series of sites built to pass links back and forth amongst themselves.
If you're going this route, you'll wnat to make sure all domains are NOT related (different registrars, different hosts, etc.)
If you simply place a bunch of similar sites on your server, whether for other clients or not, they'll be seen as related and all link values negated. The main site which has all the links pointed at it may even be penalized for trying to "fake it" with inbound links.
IMO, this is not a good idea.
2 - articles - hmmm, let's talk about this for a minute.
Someone writes an article and posts it for your use. So, you think this is an easy way to get content for your website, right?
WRONG. The engines want to see unique content. What part of articles used by multiple websites is unique?
That's right - nothing.
In short: the engines will eventually find this content wherever it exists and someone is getting penalized for having duplicate content. ...and who would that be? Bingo - anyone who used it AFTER the first site posts it up.
So, the author gets their name out there and links back to their own website (in most cases), the article website gets the credit for having the unique version of the ocntent (in most cases, unless the author posted it first on their own site), and you get...screwed in the end.
Let's recap:
The real estate vertical is overrun with folks doing as the original poster is thinking of doing. That vertical has seen some shake ups in the recent past and the engines are very closely watching link structures to determine if the links were obtained organiclly, or by manually building your own "network".
Articles - skip this - just take the time to build your own unique content - it's worth it in the long-run.
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nathan_nathaniel
Joined: Dec 19, 2006
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Posted: 2006-Dec-25 04:01
This is interesting and brings a thought to mind. I'm just beginning to use link baiting by taking unique material from my own site and submitting it to "ezinearticles.com." The material I submitted has been available on my own site for a long time (and still is there) before being submitted to ezinearticles. Is there any way for such a site to "trick" Google into thinking it is the originator of the material, rather than me? And if "duplicate material" like this ends up penalizing ezinearticles--like is implied in this thread--how can they offer this service without suffering a penalty themselves?
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plenusvita
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Posted: 2007-Jan-25 02:42
Hey Deano2,
I agree with SportsGuy - run away from this especially the duplicate content side of things.
I have been stung like this in the past, people telling me to use the same content on various sites but just to move it around a bit and replace 1 line with another. This did knock my SE positions down quite quickly, and after reading this forum I deleted all of the sites content before I got banned from G and other search engines. Touch wood I don't think I have.
The guys in these forums have always steered me right and I thank them all for that, so heed their words and don't do it.
I have since spent a lot of time creating unique content for my other sites and it should work. There is not as much text as originally on there but that does not seem to bother anyone as it is all relevant to the topics and is pretty much unique.
Hope my second opinion helps with this.
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SportsGuy
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Posted: 2007-Jan-25 18:31
*NOTE - I know this thread is massively old, but the last unanswered question was good, so here we go...*
This is interesting and brings a thought to mind. I'm just beginning to use link baiting by taking unique material from my own site and submitting it to "ezinearticles.com." The material I submitted has been available on my own site for a long time (and still is there) before being submitted to ezinearticles. Is there any way for such a site to "trick" Google into thinking it is the originator of the material, rather than me? And if "duplicate material" like this ends up penalizing ezinearticles--like is implied in this thread--how can they offer this service without suffering a penalty themselves?
Google is very good at actually knowing who originally posted content, so it's extremely unlikely they'll assign value to someone else for your content - even if they usually rank higher than you, or even if they have a higher PR than you - G knows who brings what to the market and when.
As for these article sites "getting away with it" - well, they do have some of their own unique content, plus they usually have lots of inbound links that develop traffic for them and may even have a few good one-way inbounds to help them along.
If you were to research these sites, you'd see that many of their actual "article" pages are NOT indexed by Google. Some will be, but that's likely due to things like authors posting to the article site, then getting it posted on their own site a few days or more later - amazing that they'd make this mistake, but many do...
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